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Hi Dear our company has faced fire damage lately, please guide me about accounting entries of 1) impairment loss and 2)upon receiving the claim as a policyholder. I will be grateful thanks

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Topic Expert
Sunil Thukral
Title: Controller/Technical Accounting Advisory..
Company: Consultant
(Controller/Technical Accounting Advisory/ SEC Reporting, Consultant) |

Dear Alones......simply stated, on the date of the loss, you will need to remove the asset as you no longer have it. Simultaneously, you will need to set up a receivable from the insurance company. The difference between the carrying value of the asset and the insurance claim will be the impairment loss.

EXAMPLE:
The asset has carrying value of $1,000,000 and the insurance proceeds are expected to be $800,000. Hence, in this case you will record the following entry:

DEBIT Insurance company.....$800,000..................<-- Insurance claim amount
DEBIT Impairment loss............$200,000 ..................<-- Balancing figure
CREDIT Asset........................................$1,000,000.....<-- Carrying value of asset

The above is a very simplified example, in reality the things will be more complex as you will not know how much amount the insurance company will pay, etc. In such a situation you will need to make an estimate of the proceeds expected from the insurance company.

Please call me for free consultation and I can discuss the various other scenario's with you that are unique to your situation.

Alones A
Title: Finance Executive
Company: Withheld
(Finance Executive, Withheld) |

hello Sunil
thanks for your reply and guidance, I want to clarify about impairment loss here, as impairment is an estimation of future recoverable amount so I doubt about taking the difference as an impairment, shouldn't it be taken as a loss (written off) instead. Then the assets that has not written off would be tested for impairment and recorded accordingly.
secondly if claim > BV of asset, would it be booked as other income?

Thanks once again for reply

Best regards

Topic Expert
Sunil Thukral
Title: Controller/Technical Accounting Advisory..
Company: Consultant
(Controller/Technical Accounting Advisory/ SEC Reporting, Consultant) |

Hello Alones,

As mentioned earlier, I had taken a very simple example to explain the concept of recording the losses, etc. I agree with what you, however, it is better to explain it with the detailed journal entries.

STEP 1:
When the asset is destroyed due to fire, you will need to write the carrying value off (let's assume that it is $700K). Let's assume that the you receive insurance proceeds of $800K for this asset. So you will record the following journal entry:

DEBIT Insurance company..................$800,000.........<-- Insurance claim amount
CREDIT Gain on the retiring the asset ..............$200,000 ..<-- Balancing figure
CREDIT Asset...................................................$700,000.....<-- Carrying value of asset

STEP 2:
Conduct an analysis to determine the impairment loss for the assets remaining within the asset group.

Please let me know if you need any additional clarifications on this issue.

Best regards,
Sunil

Ken Stumder
Title: Finance Director / Controller
Company: Ken Stumder, CPA
(Finance Director / Controller, Ken Stumder, CPA) |

Sunil - I have a similar scenario. We received a check from out landlord for damaged server equipment as a result of some building work they did. In our case, the server equipment is fully depreciated, so what I did to record the proceeds is credit any repair costs we incurred, however I am left with the difference as there is no asset to eliminate. I'm putting it in "Other Income". Does this make sense to you from a GAAP perspective? I'm wondering if this should just go to a regular operating expense account (we have no "gain" account currently).

Alones A
Title: Finance Executive
Company: Withheld
(Finance Executive, Withheld) |

Thanks a lot Sunil , i will keep in touch with you on this issue

Topic Expert
Sunil Thukral
Title: Controller/Technical Accounting Advisory..
Company: Consultant
(Controller/Technical Accounting Advisory/ SEC Reporting, Consultant) |

Alones, you are very welcome. I am glad that I could be of help to you.

Arjay Diego
Title: Internal Auditor
Company: PMFTC
(Internal Auditor, PMFTC) |

Hello Sunil, happy new year!
I would like to consult regarding a treatment in Insurance Claim proceeds. I've read your previous comments and I noticed that you put DEBIT on INSURANC COMPANY. does it mean, the receivable you're referring to establish is directly debited to the Vendor account? or should we establish an "asset account" like a insurance receivable? please enlighten me. and if there's a specific accounting standard for this, as I usually see is more on the PFRS 4 for insurance contracts. Thanks.

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